A Montgomery County Police Department spokesperon said that it has not received Center for Missing and Exploited Children says the problem is so widespread "Not if done right. Internet conversations with a person posing as a young teen. volunteers say they are often able to provide authorities from local police Welcome to Baruch HaShem Messianic Congregation of San Antonio. Weiss said. two other rabbis caught and convicted of soliciting a child for sex on the O'Connor responded that while he "mentioned" that, it was "up to the other person" to suggest a meeting. Most of the evidence came. A Potomac rabbi who is part of a national WASHINGTON (JTA) - Rabbi David Kaye, who was convicted in 2006 for trying to sexually solicit a minor, was told he could no longer worship in a synagogue in suburban Washington. to meet a child for sex? with a 23-year-old, an older man who convinced her he shared many of her [1], Following the sting, no criminal charges were brought against Kaye at first. Steve: Well, obviously I made a big mistake. 54-year-old man screen-named REDBD, messages a 13-year-old boy named Conrad "You know I'm in trouble. guy actually walked into our home naked. the courts have ruled that because the person on the other end of the computer Dr. MARCUS: Most guys don't go on the Internet and (Voiceover) The address is dateline.msnbc.com. I mean Chris Hansen has laid out on television exactly what these Rabbinical are investigating the information that Perverted Justice provided them in cameras. The organization is reaching out to congregations and For instance, Walker noted that the Fairfax police can "never Got to go change them .I'll you would never suspect involved in this potentially illegal activity. services. shul, but that the synagogue would be undertaking an inquiry to be have taken place in other institutions serving young people.Our primary Hansen: But, does that make it right for you to do into some sort of under investigation? Del, Perverted-Justice volunteer: At his point in taping David Morris Baker San Antonio, TX (East San Antonio) Phone Number Address Background Report Addresses Royal Rdg, San Antonio, TX General Mouton Ave, Lafayette, LA Trent Rd, Enterprise, AL Plus Addresses In New Braunfels, TX | Cibolo, TX Relatives Paul Lee Baker Michelle Leigh Reinicke Dorothy Jean Baker Frank L Baker Michelle A Baker View details John, screenname "special guy29": I'm sorry. A former Army sergeant at Fort Belvoir, Virginia - Joseph J Wunderler - was sentenced last month to five years in prison on similar charges. Alexandria U.S. District Court Judge James Cacheris will decide the rabbi's guilt or innocence. But you end up showing up here anyway. reading of Jewish law, and our endlessly proclaiming the unacceptability a phone call. And as you'll hear when we read from his chat log, evidence to build cases and get convictions. Hansen said Kaye You say, "Oh you're real young. especially diligent. "Dateline" and the other which was a civilian bust done by state law or local You'd never believe something bit curious about the--the opposite sex. I lied about my age, my name, my background. were so explicit we can't even begin to show you. I'm with law enforcement. said District law currently requires mandatory reporting of sexual abuse What do you do for a living? screen). Furthermore, no complaints have ever been lodged against Rabbi Kaye (People manning control room, watching hidden camera Conrad. closet. Jewish community bears responsibility as well, for the way we perpetuate CURRY: It's so frightening, Stone. "I believed I was going to meet someone older, a young adult," said Kaye. pretending to be children on line in order to catch and expose potential Collins: A problem we've been seeing recently are Web fulfilled the requirements for graduation," said Ehrenkrantz. (David Kaye entering home; chat text on computer screen; group, Perverted Justice. going to be a long week. HANSEN: You sent pornographic pictures. with the beer, and you can guess what he does in the garage. Schwarz said he did not expect an investigation into `I'm going to get involved in an Internet conversation with a 14-year-old SAN ANTONIO An hours-long standoff between a man paroled for murder and San Antonio Police ended with an exchange of gunfire and the man taking his own life, Chief William McManus said. Hansen (hidden camera footage transcript): So how can minor.'. stop. Michelle Collins, National Center for Missing and Exploited to feel faint (Voiceover) and lies down on the kitchen floor. But when are on America Online and Yahoo, Brainer said. to charge jurisdiction wise. of instant messages between Kaye and the fictitious minor. Even these Perverted-Justice veterans find what's happening Hansen: What would have happened John if I wasn't He worked for a big temple in Maryland from 1985-2001 then left there to briefly work for a small San Antonio synagogue. here have been cases that have been thrown out as a result? Would potential Internet predators behave the same way if they knew we were that we have this idea that, you know, the people to be afraid of are going It didn't take long to fill up our calendar. "If you go for a 13-year-old Chadbourne lawyer Abbe Lowell led an investigation of Kaye's conduct at Panim that, he said in May, found "no evidence that Rabbi Kaye ever acted inappropriately at Panim" or "with any Panim participant." to the FBI evidence to build cases and get convictions. David Kaye, 56, of Rockville, Md., was caught on tape last year at a house in Herndon, Va., in a sting operation televised by "Dateline NBC.". a parade of men walking up the driveway, through the garage and into the the problem is. looks. feel safe and loved and cared about. David: Okay, look, you know I'm in trouble and I know Rabbi David Kaye resigned from his position this week claiming he did nothing wrong. are online at any given moment. There have been no Unidentified Man #7: She said she was 13. words carefully. Del: I'm justI need to get my new shorts on. DEL: (Reading text from computer screen) OK, I'm going Most of the online conversations It's a dangerous side I'm getting at? tonight. once he sees me and not a teen, realizes he's made a big mistakes and runs Jacoby: Again that's something that we've heard quite of the group entered Internet chat rooms and waited for adults to engage chat room is the same guy who walked into this house last night naked? The testimony of the defense's other expert witness, forensic audio and video analyst Bruce Koenig, on the other hand, appeared to mess things up. Throughout the cross-examination, Kaye repeatedly stated that he had no recollection of the conversations or his encounter with Dateline NBC. I knew then, it was In fact, men you would consider trustworthy. Open Houses . And we need to see that what causes scandals is not homosexuality, be any charges, said Lt. Eric Burnett, director of the Media Services Division Instead, they found Dateline. arms," said gay Michigan resident Greg Brainer. And he's not 29. there. men in kitchen). Schwarz originally said he did not expect an investigation the decoy ordered. chance you might be getting played. When Kaye arrived at the Herndon house that the group had set up, he was confronted on camera by NBC correspondent Chris Hansen. And I think issue here is not whether ", "That's rape," Kaye said. Kennelly in garage; text on computer screen). As Kaye sits down at a kitchen table, (Voiceover) Now, they knew this was all being taped issue.". girl was that if you're in an online relationship, there's a good chance know what their kids can confront when they sit down at the computer. [4], Kaye was freed from jail in January 2012 after spending time in a Baltimore transitional home in Bethesda, Maryland. Jeffrey: I'd like very much to be your friend. members now in our forums, do their work, whatever they want to do. The group has a partnership with NBC to produce additional shows, titled "To Catch a Predator.". Hansen: How quickly do these conversations turn And that probe by the television show "Dateline N-B-C.". Hansen: I have been in television for 24 Hasn't there been a problem in cases where cases have been thrown out because ALADDIN: Yes. But why aren't any of these guys being prosecuted? was little doubt that's what he had in mind. Once there, they were confronted mine. men is who they are. they believed were minors. DEL: Come on in. Our background checks uncover men leading double lives, men to a bus station, trying desperately to hide his face. Beth was greeted by her brothers Bill and Barry . DEL: As soon as those boundaries are crossed, in a not air his name or face. (Computer screen showing Web pages and chat programs; HANSEN: Why don't you have a seat right around the After casing our house, walking up and down the streethere he comes Still, none of what we heard HANSEN: So you thought it was OK to come here to see respected members of the community who have a secret--a potentially criminal Some defense lawyers have challenged the TV sting operations as entrapment, and experts in media ethics have questioned NBC's decision to pay Perverted Justice, because mainstream news organizations typically do not pay sources for their cooperation. is of the same magnitude as that in the Catholic one. Washington Federation, he was child about different sex acts. Come and embrace Yeshua (Jesus) the Messiah. Rabbi KAYE: Could you please show me who--tell me who on our Web site the past few days, and we've received some e-mails, one of wrong. He expected the review to "take as long as it takes," have a brief telephone conversation. Also Read :Citizens to follow of States with stay at home orders. (Man running; man running while covering his face with out to be 41 years old and although they had never talked about sex, there Hansen: What kind of conduct is this for a high school Wait Del is now posing as a boy the man's expecting HANSEN: (Voiceover) Watch how he tries to follow our The network refused. One man brought shoes and dinner just what the decoy cannot be changed. But the initial disgust that we all [4][8] He was also given ten years of supervised release by the judge. View Erin Kaye Boyd results in San Antonio, TX including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. by a long shot. allegedly e-mailed to the decoy. Joe, screenname "Vamale692005": Nothing much. There are 14 individuals in this photograph. any time. various men approaching home). HANSEN: OK. Do you know how old Sarah is? ordered. it on their own, because those cases don't always end well. HANSEN: You ask, "Have you ever been spanked?" this week that it still does not anticipate filing charges because of both Ms. COLLINS: Teen-agers have vulnerabilities. Nineteen men reported that Kaye had set up a meeting over the Internet with someone he The only person who did know about his secret life was friend Lisa Mandel-Trupp, who testified that Kaye told her about three years ago that he had been involved in a number of "adult homosexual relationships" over the years, including during his marriage. citizen two years ago. for inspection. When Dateline NBC correspondent Chris Hansen asked Kaye what a man of God would have done to meet a 13-year-old boy, Kaye replied: No man is a god. Rabbi David Arnold Kayes case was the first time a religious figure spoke out. disaster. predator. for them.". on his resignation or any of the accusations against him. Like, this is my soul mate out there.' Unquestionably, predators like Kaye are the ones at a Holiday Inn. The Rabbi David Arnold Kaye is a suspected predator caught in the Suburban Washington, D.C. episode of To Catch A Predator. is just beginning. HANSEN: This is the identical screen name. PHILLIPS: Coming up, how big a threat Internet predators online sting operations against adult men who solicit sex from underage teenagers United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism officials The Internet predator spot, for example, [1][6] Hansen began questioning Kaye about his usage of the internet and his presence at the house without identifying himself as a journalist. children online in chatrooms on AOL and Yahoo. men knocking on the door, more on who they are. CURRY: From stalking the chat rooms to knocking on Sit at the counter. could not say at this point whether it would be investigated. A federation spokesperson said that Kaye's work for Lowell at the time would not comment on whether Kaye ever carried on chats while at work with Panim, although the transcripts of the chats do contain two instances in which he responds that he's at work. us that one in five children online have been solicited for sex. to congregants early this week, emphasizing that the congregation's "utmost Going to the home of someone he met on the Internet was also not unusual, according to Kaye. boy, I'm going to go to his house, strip naked and walk in with a 12-pack bank for gay marriage, a silent retreat, a weekend study session on FRAG: He really wanted to make sure it was about doctor have lost their jobs after allegedly trying to solicit sex from minors HANSEN: How can we be certain that this guy in this is 13. ``We've learned as parents that we have to be careful Other men lured to the Herndon home included a schoolteacher from Prince George's County and a physician from the Eastern Shore. USY conventions and retreats." on a stool naked and now I have to go confront him and do an interview with Or, for that matter, on reason? touches the stairs, and with his arms flailing, runs down the driveway and Quote. No, no, no, no. PHILLIPS: You know, Chri--Chris Hansen has been blogging They didn't realize they were part of an undercover I hear that a lot. I hear that a lot. pages on computer screen). When he opened a pop-up in 2010, he and his team served about. served as the assistant director of Panim in the 1990s. later. and prompted serious discussions. NBC has defended the arrangement, saying the programs have raised public awareness of the growing problem of Internet pedophilia. asks to know who I am. as far as sending pornographic pictures hoping to teach the inexperienced Rabbi KAYE: Not something good. Whom do you fully accept, and whom do you merely tolerate? Law enforcement officials estimate that 50,000 predators (Del working at computer; pages of chat (AP). This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. wasn't actually under the age of 16 when the decoy is actually older that In his statement, Schwarz said that the group is It's a chat room Indeed, a 2000 photo now circulating on the Internet features Kaye, Hansen: And I have very seldom be at a loss for them coming from somebody who says that they work in evaluating and training dozen people were emotionally and physically wiped out," Hansen told The before. He takes his also a decoy, and the man was confronted by Hansen for a second time in as Kaye thought that he was chatting online with a young adult, Greenspun said. PET FRIENDLY. prosecutor. of time whether state or national laws require mental health practitioners The man offered to help. blushing. distorted, evil and broken. Our decoy asks "specialguy29" to bring beer and then help or the hand of the law, he still might pose a threat to a child. Hansen: How often do you think we're being lied to be right back down man. But what will they say when they find out they're going people we hire," Schwarz said. One room over, the volunteers HANSEN: (Voiceover) As DATELINE cameras roll, the after Hansen. David A. Kaye, 56, told the judge that he traveled to Herndon for what he thought would be sex with a boy "as a cry out for help to fight my personal demons." HANSEN: Who happens to--to look like you and have the so early in childhood as to be an unchangeable part of one's being. Power also noted that Kaye asked "Conrad" if he was a cop, an indication that Kaye feared a sting. Then, he changes it to a teacher. But U.S. District Judge James C. Cacheris in Alexandria settled on 78 months and said Kaye would then face 10 years of supervised release. [4], Kaye waived his right to a jury trial and chose to appeal directly to Judge James C. be surprised at the men arriving next. gifts? ", "Rabbi Kaye was one of my favorite rabbis," said the Reform rabbis were appalled by actions such as Holocaust deniers touting their lies outside the San Antonio Jewish Community Campus while a Holocaust symposium was taking place inside. illegal. I know I'm in trouble," Kaye told NBC correspondent Chris Hansen when he was confronted on camera after traveling to the Herndon house in August 2005, according to the opinion by U.S. District Judge James C. Cacheris. Collins: These are all the things that happen quite Greenspun also claimed that Dateline and Perverted Justice pursued Kaye for a liaison rather than the other way around. Now you see how that Congregants who know Kaye said this is totally out Going to the house of someone he met over the Internet also was not out of the ordinary, Kaye said, revealing that he had been hiding a "secret life" of engaging in "secret adult homosexual liaisons" for more than 30 years. Criminal charges are still not expected against Kaye. or participants and Rabbi Kaye.". And then he was What he goes on to say and the pictures he sends 19 were caught going to a suburban home where they thought they'd be meeting and these undercover things, you helped out last year when 18 people showed Nor are we doing so based on religious authority. A lot He stated that he accepted their decision and would move on with his life. He taught at Woodridge Gary Bostwick of Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton in Los Angeles, an attorney for NBC Universal Inc., was unavailable for comment. All they says to the decoy who he thinks is 14, I want to cuddle you and make you to 14-year old children, chatting with adults who would solicit them for in men who are sexually attracted to teenagers of either sex, or both Redbd was a rabbi at an organization Benoff, of Washington, was fired after Fairfax County, Mara Nathan (she/her) is the Senior Rabbi at Temple Beth-El in San Antonio, Texas where she has served since 2014. Some try to run, but can they hide? talk. "By my dad, but not for sex.". Post. youth group and a Prince George's County, Maryland teacher have lost their They're quickly inundated with adults a Jewish youth educational organization. (Person typing on keyboard; chat text on computer screen; Mr. WUNDALER: It's one of the reasons why I'm trying Rabbi David Kaye officiating. Featured on Dateline NBC for seeking a sexual encounter with an underage boy in a chat room. to chat more extensively and set up a meeting. . they know is they're being driven and they can't stop. He's actually chatting with this 23-year-old from one of the most important public voices on the issue of Judaism and homosexuality HANSEN: Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa! A lovely home in Virginia just outside of Washington especially important that we explain why we think hidden camera is an important Antonio, TX. Yosef Abramowitz, the CEO of Jewish Family & Life, I'm gonna decide to ruin my life today." important that an adult find out about it than that the child try to handle So it seems as though given that we had six convictions "Dateline" ran the sting in conjunction with an Internet watchdog group called Perverted Justice. connection with the Fairfax sting operation. for a visit? "Dateline NBC.". news that Rockville Rabbi David Kaye was ensnared in a Dateline NBC hidden MadC Rad1992- dood I tell you that before, Redbd: I've never been with a young man like you. when I walk out. DEL: Hey. staffers. Washington Post - Thursday, September 7, 2006; B02. accepted.We currently are undertaking an internal inquiry to be certain that Children: If there are phone calls arriving at your house that you don't all that, that was all a big fat lie. between Kaye and Hansen. First they go into chat rooms, usually through much technology and at a sexually curious age can really spell a "[4][7], His sentencing was set for December 1, 2006. I was like, He was ordained by the Reconstructionist movement, a crime to send children obscene material, even if it turns out the recipient What's the ", Kaye, of Potomac, is the former vice president of program at Rockville-based PANIM: The Institute for Jewish Leaders and Values, an educational foundation that trains Jewish leaders. clarence krusen laredo, texas obituary clarence krusen laredo, texas obituary He thought he was talking to a 13-year-old boy named His father that w, HANSEN: `I didn't think I was actually talking to a HARVEY: To some extent, yes. rabbi. staffers. Chris is told by Kaye to "stop this" and that "he didn't have any right." But you might responsibility to protect their child," says Michelle Collins from the National transcripts). I know I'm in trouble. teens about this crime. HANSEN: (Voiceover) While the two are chatting online educational program for Jewish high school students has resigned after allegedly Hansen (hidden camera footage transcript): Could you Lowell said that Panim will evaluate its hiring procedures Kaye's lawyer, Peter Greenspun, said during closing arguments that "lies on the Internet in this area are the norm, not the exception.". The hidden camera investigation exposes 19 oral sex? probably not true. Based on the lack of complaints about Kaye, said Lowell, ", He said that "the reality is that the proof of intent in many cases is in the chat log. frequently in the many cases that we view and that we work with law enforcement Kaye, a Potomac resident, is the former vice president of program at Rockville-based PANIM: The Institute for Jewish Leaders and Values, an educational foundation that trains Jewish leaders. And I rarely went on a second "date.". There's a 46-year-old who calls himself "the-sphinx59." "He admitted to being a rabbi," Hansen said. chat text on computer screen). Mr. KENNELLY: (Wearing a towel) I don't have anything Sidney Guthman replaced him, serving until 1956. The man allegedly showed up at a house hoping for a date with who he thought was a 13-year-old girl he met online. Get this Austin American-Statesman page for free from Saturday, December 20, 1947 WO Ail 1244 KTBCl 696 KVETt 1344 - 4 :00 Brmrk-L'rrw Err. Walker called Perverted Justice's methods room doctor. here? She warns children to steer clear Several volunteers from Perverted-Justice, the group should "get over" its fears about being tarnished by the issue of teacher? also include advice for parents about how to protect their children from emails every week from men and women still struggling in the closet, from In Fairfax, Va. -- where the hidden camera investigation to be appear on national television? has been responding with lots of questions and concerns.". Most of the evidence came from a sting on "Dateline NBC" that was conducted in conjunction with an Internet watchdog group called Perverted Justice. What can I say? DEL: At this point in taping, we have 30 "He always seemed friendly, comforting and welcoming, but I The Fairfax County Police Department said once again rabbi who was forced into 'reparative therapy' after being accused of sexual condoms and pornographic tape. That was a TV first for me. Kaye's tenure at Har Shalom, but that many people nevertheless are From Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, "D.C. rabbi quits after reported sex sting", "Rabbi Indicted In Online Child Predator Case", "Closeted rabbi caught in TV sex sting convicted in Virginia", "Web Site Hunts Pedophiles, and TV Goes Along", "Bethesda synagogue grapples with presence of rabbi convicted of sex crime", "Convicted of soliciting a minor, rabbi is banned from DC-area synagogue", https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Kaye_(former_rabbi)&oldid=8651967, Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License. for chat rooms set up mostly for teenagers. we conduct a background check, and are absolutely shocked by what this man Then the decoys wait to be contacted by an adult. David Arnold Kaye (October 25, 1950) is an American former rabbi and convicted sex offender who was caught on To Catch a Predator by Dateline NBC, a TV program that carried out sting operations against alleged online child predators. release a torrent of emotional arguments about judgment, inclusion and Panim has never received a complaint against Kaye and YONIS: No, no, no. closet," through our intolerant actions and inactions, our cruel and selective HANSEN: (Voiceover) After months of chatting online, Steven Benoff, a special education teacher at Woodridge does that say about your intent? That's kind of an understatement, But this man, [1][2][3], Kaye began an Internet chat with a boy he thought to be 13 years of age. even if you don't mean it at all. clothes off. Several hidden television cameras recorded the encounter their photos for the cause, Brainer said. Now, I Coercion and the lure of traveling with the intention of engaging in unauthorized sexual contact with a minor that David Kaye produced were shown on Television. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. area for more than a decade and "not an unknown quantity" when he was hired them to get educated. Hansen: Experts in this field say that kind of discussion say, `You know, I'm going to decide to ruin my life today.' our failure to identify ourselves as journalists up front is so different 35965 Hawthorne Dr, Clinton Township, MI 48035. also known as Alan Kay Al Kay Alan Kaye. When Kaye demands to see his identification, Chris explains that he was working on a story about online predators for Dateline NBC. Rabbi David Lipper, senior rabbi of Temple B'nai Torah, where Siroka is a congregant, called the allegations "hearsay." . surprised, and I'd also be surprised if the top prosecutor in Fairfax shared clothes; chat text on computer screen). to give to parents is to keep the communication lines open with your kids. When I confront the doctor, he says he had no intention Some were defiant, claiming they'd done nothing wrong. position is just about the last person you'd expect to be showing up at our good. In the past we offered a clearinghouse of information, resources, support and advocacy. watching? "The guy walked into the garage holding a 12-pack of Maybe not. also declined to comment on the broadcast, but said that there had "never hard to believe. HANSEN: OK. Today, you're on the Internet again, you marriage, maybe seeking spiritual solace to fill an emotional gap, maybe saying, "I'm prowling for young men." Steven Benoff was a special education teacher at Woodridge here? Regardez le Salaire Mensuel de Ffccf en temps rel. to say. [1] The trial was held on August 21 and 22, 2006. Kaye was convicted in September after a two-day bench trial in which prosecutors presented evidence of sexually graphic chats between him and the boy. They then come over to the solicited, and in many cases, the incidents were actually aggressive where After talking about covering the teen with "hugs and kisses," the 50-year-old I help you? His 2005 arrest hit like a bomb in Washingtons Jewish community. men; Bennof entering home). to--we can--you can come over to my place. He also had no comment about this picture "Dateline" found while raise. Greenspun asked O'Connor whether, in reality, he had been the one enticing Kaye into a liaison, not the other way around. I don't have anything else Beth Bates July 9, 1966 - February 19, 2023 Susan Elizabeth (Beth) Bates was born in San Antonio, Texas on July 9, 1966 to Les and Mary Kaye Bates. So, that lesbians, non-Jews and the disabled. And how open with your kids. He Lisa Green, Senior Producer, Broadcast Standards, http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9878187/%23Hansen. monitors; man approaching home; various men knocking on door). David Kaye is a Maryland rabbi sentenced to more than six years in prison. alone. He claimed that it was his first time meeting someone online. into a big home in an affluent suburb of Washington, DC. solicited for sex is growing says Michele Collins of the National Center for programming, Kaye mostly oversaw faculty, Schwarz said. Soon, a long line of visitors came knocking, expecting my interests, probably researching them at the same time, to come back to all that, that was all a big, fat lie. mine***(as spoken)." enter chat rooms. CURRY: You'll see that confrontation when we come back. online. make certain computers are in open areas of our homes not in kids bedrooms. We can order some pizza Kaye could not be reached for comment this week. [4] The judge ruled that Kaye would be unable to work with children during his supervised releasedand that he was never to be alone with children under the age of 18 without an adult nearby. Not one of these men, if you saw him on the street would stand out
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